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    Out for a walk EricaCD's Avatar
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    Coming out, round two

    This afternoon's thread ("Deception only hinders dressing") was a singularly interesting one to read. It's a testament to what a wonderful group this is that a potentially inflammatory topic like that resulted in a civil, deep discussion.

    So here is a similar question. First some background: my wife learned about my dressing a few years ago. I had been on the fence as to whether to tell her and had elected not to do so for a few reasons (not relevant here). Because I was on the fence, I was not especially careful about hiding clothes, etc. I didn't mind the idea of her discovering. And yes, I now know that I was essentially forcing her to discover and articulate the subject. And yes, I now know that was a selfish and immature thing to do to her.

    Anyway, she did find out and I did come clean. Ironically, I had stopped dressing for about 18 months at that point (just for reasons of personal inclination). As I have indicated elsewhere, my wife is a classic avoider of confrontations. We had a long talk that day and she understood that I am not gay, it's not about her, I was limiting my interaction to internet communications (nothing at all in person), I don't need for her to participate if she is not interested, etc. I now understand that she was working to equate my interest in CDing to any other "solo" sexual activity, like reading erotica or checking out porn sites. Once she got that perspective, she seemed to get comfortable and dropped the subject. Without getting into more detail, I think I can say that she was content not to hash this out any further. She politely but firmly declined to check out any sort of GG support organizations, felt to need to get counseling (I offered) or take any other steps to proactively come to terms with the issue.

    I told her at the time that I hadn't dressed in some time (true) and that, at that point, I didn't feel any particular inclination to start up again (also true). I also made it very clear to her that my CDing comes and goes, that it might well come up again, and that it was very much a part of my personality. She did not indicate that she believed this was a phase, and at no time sought to stop me from dressing or in any way express her disapproval for my dressing in particular or crossdressing in general.

    OK, so much for background. Question: do I tell her that I have resumed dressing fairly actively? All the original answers to her questions remain true (not gay, not looking, etc.). I suppose she might have thought I stopped forever, in which case I am being at least complicit in her misimpression. On the other hand, for all I know she has thought that I have been going en femme for the last couple years. She plainly wanted to shunt this from her consciousness - if she wanted to discuss it she certainly could. If I bring it up, I may well be doing nothing more than impeding her attempt to cope by avoidance. And I can't shake the feeling that I might be inclined to tell her not for her own benefit, but for mine.

    Any thoughts as to the right approach? Perspective from GGs especially welcome.

    Thanks, and sorry for the long winded post!

    Erica

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    Yes you tell her. She is your wife. You tell her everything. You believe in her, trust her, love her.

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    Yes tell her. At this point you have only deceived her once, if this go on much longer and she finds out again it will be twice and there will be hell to pay.

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    Breakin' social taboos TGMarla's Avatar
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    She sounds a lot like my wife. It's an easy question to answer from a woman's point of view, as MelissaGG just said. (Incidently, Melissa, you are a lovely lady!) Pretty cut and dry. You have an interesting perspective, though. Are you considering telling her more for your own benefit, or for hers? She clearly has adopted the same regulation for herself as the military has for gays: don't ask, don't tell. She does not want this to be a part of her life.

    Ask yourself a few questions. You are dressing more frequently. You're about 6' 3" (without heels?) by your own admission. Anyway, you're rather tall, from what you've said elsewhere. What are your intentions in dressing now? Are you planning on going out anywhere, say, to a support group meeting? Are you planning on doing anything outside of your own doors? Or are you just dressing for your own pleasure and peace of mind, and content to stay home while you do it? Are you planning on spending any large sums of money to enhance your crossdressing, like new wigs, foundation garments, or breast forms?

    If you are just stepping up the frequency without going out anywhere or spending a lot of cash, she may not want to know. But if you have designs on taking this to another level, you have to be up front about it anyway.

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    Erica good luck women are so fickle they hate to compete esp. if there guy looks as good in a dress as they do. Damm if you do damm if you don’t Do you believe love Concurs all?

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    I show my SO every day how I feel about her I don't do all the things around the house that I sould I'm kinda lazy she needs help but dose not ask. Once in a while I go into a flurry of helpfulness (is that a word ?) and do megga work and she is so thankful to me for it. I work a fifty hour week (ten hour days) yeah and I retired last year. So she always tells me that Jim or Bob won't help Elaine or Patty around the house like I do. So comes the gender question she's death on the subject only tolerates me wairing panties. I need this expression of my other self more than just doing womans (sexist) work.I need to dress the part.Think if I wore a bra under my sweetshirt she would buy it? Now I'm just rambling I just need her acceptance so peace can prevail.

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    Erica, I would casually inform her as a matter of courtesy, simply saying something like, " Dear, I made the mistake of deceiving you before, and I know you really don't want to know, but I am dressing again. I didn't want you to discover it accidentally, and think I was hiding it from you."

    This way, you're not confronting her with it, just giving her a "heads-up" as it were, to keep her from being surprised.

    As always, my free advice is worth what you pay for it. Good luck, however you handle it.
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    I wish you the best of luck with this! My wife says the biggest part was the deception. Then its the whole gender thing. She thinks now that the whole don't ask - don't tell policy is best. For me that is not acceptable. This is me. I need to be able to be me in my home. I have the right. Same as she does to not want this in her life. For me, honesty is the best policy. Even though it has caused tremendous pain and heartache. She has the right to know about me. I have the right to be able to share this with the person I share my life with.

    This will probably cause a divorce in our future, we are just two people who disagree. Some disagreements can be worked around. Compromise can be reached. Others not. We saw a marraige counselor. He stated he has had couples divorce over things such as smoking or golf. So I guess it just comes down to who you are, who she is, and what you each NEED in your lives.

    Good luck.
    Sarah

    "So Often times it happens, that we live our lives in chains, and we never even know we have the key" The Eagles

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    Many thanks to all for your constructive replies. I am planning on telling her - quite along the lines Maureen has mentioned, though I also want to make sure she is aware of the boundaries of my activity. I am going to make sure that I have the important points down so that I can get through them in less than a minute:

    - I'm aware that this might only be impeding her coping. But I have determined to err on the side of not misleading her again.
    - I am crossdressing more frequently.
    - Same fundamentals still apply as 3 years ago: I am not gay, I don't want to be a woman, I don't want to interact as a woman with her, I am not unhappy in our marriage, this is not about her or our sex life in any way, and I am not seeking romantic involvement with another person.
    - Any interactions with others, whether online or real world, will be STRICTLY non-romantic in nature. And no real world venturing anywhere near our town.

    It's a fast, dense list, but again I have to bear in mind that I may be doing nothing more than intruding on her desire to forget all about this. I'll spend as much time as she likes discussing, answering questions, pointing her to support resources, etc. On the other hand, if she wants to ignore this part of me, at least we will be on the same page.

    I'll let y'all know how it comes out! Ora pro nobis...

    Thanks again,
    Erica

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