Something I have always wondered about but couldn't say anything until I found this forum. Why is it OK for a woman to wear mens clothes in public and be ok in socity where if a man wears womens clothes in public he may be killed for it? The women have been wearing jeans and shirts like a man for a long time, why they are making underware for women that are cut like a mans, they even have a fly. What is up with this? Michelle
Women want to feel independent and be like us , doncha know? It's a big burden for women to wear women's clothes. Actually, it's more about comfort than a fashion statement.Kay
Maybe empowerment ? No cut intended here.Originally Posted by Ericka/Rich
Women want to feel independent and be like us , doncha know? It's a big burden for women to wear women's clothes. Actually, it's more about comfort than a fashion statement.
people that look down on men wearing womens clothes are usually...............taller
Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart
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Terri
Get over it. Sh*t happens. Nothing will change any of it.
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I have always wondered the same thing how is it ok for the gals to don male attire but not the other way round. Does society somehow think that a male dressed in womens clothes
I do it because the ladies have a varied selection to work with the styles are better over all. They also feel a whole lot better than guy clothes. I have always hated male clothing but we can`t have everything.
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Because more women wear mens cloths than men wear womens cloths. It started over fifty years ago when women started to work in factories and wear pants for easy of working. Then they start wearing them out of the factory and people became accustom to seeing them on it's OK. That why we can't go out because it's just one of us at a time.
GLENDA
I FEEL LIKE A WOMAN
And some of them grew right through their brains!
"Lady Fingers"
Women own the fashion industry... That is, if they don't like something, it doesn't become "popular." Men have no pull. Men's fashion is dictated by what women think look good on us...
How's that for a theory?
It has taken 40 plus year for women to become accepted in wearing mens attire, now that men are coming out more an more it will be another 40 plus year for men to be fully accepted in wear women attire, Be patient the day will come when we can walk in public with out being looked at as a hidious monster. so I figure I'll be about 80 an then I'll be wearing a light weigth night shirt every where I go with a walker an wont care how people look at me cuase Ill be hafe blind an wont see there stares
Till then enjoy what you can, even if you have to stay hidden behind your own doors
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Well....If they don't like the way I dress.....screw them!! And i'll kick their ass's, even in a skirt, if they try to harm me!!! hehehe
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I saw a woman dressed in a man's suit at McDonalds with 2 other women and nobody said a thing or reacted bad. But then twice I saw women dressed in a man's shirt and other women called them gay.
I saw a man wearing women's casual wear at a bus stop and no one even bothered him. I even asked him a question and everything else was just normal.
But there are some members in this forum who go out as guys dressed in women's wear. Always nice to read their going out stories on how people reacted to them.
I would never try the guy in a dress look and go out!
I've seen many women , wearing all guys clothes too , it sems like such a dual standard , I saw this women the other day at the store she was with her kids , she had on mens Levi's , an Orange County Chopper , T-shirt, but then she had on lip-stick some femme jewelry, and her hair braided in a ponytail.....from the back I thought at first sight it was a man...and yet I noticed that she really got no reactions from others around , we crossed paths , I smiled and said hi, she smiled back at me .......
" too young to fall in love "schoolgirl "
There has always been double standards in our society. Same reason you can have a Black Students Union, but not a White Students Union. Same reason you can have a Black Firefighters association, but not a White Firefighters association. It ain't right. But it isn't going to change. Work around it.
god its the truth ive had grildfriends and family membertake my clothes espically big shirts and other clothing of mine but any girlfirend i ever when i asked dam you wear my things my cant i yours i got these dam nasty looks .. would any of the Real GGs tell us why ??? hell we on the world looks down on those of us whos dress and wear panties and others things.life not fait ladys and cders
Unfortunately it's all about the social hierarchy within our society. When a woman dresses in a way that is perceived to be masculine it's not considered a problem because she's "going up the scale". However, when a man dresses in a way that is perceived to be feminine it is a problem because (especially amongst other men) he's lowering himself because in their eyes dressing feminine is being less of a man, and being less of a man is considered a bad thing.
Now, obviously I'm generalizing about the public at large, and not everyone thinks this way, but IMHO the only way we will ever be truly accepted is when women truly get an equal status in society as men. Why hasn't there ever been a female US President? Where are all the female military Generals? Am I making any sense here? The key to it being accepted is the empowerment of women. That’s why all cders should be interested in women’s issues and leveling the playing field instead of complaining that it’s not fair.
The other thing is, we haven't earned the right to wear women's clothes yet. What I mean by that statement is that we can (technically) wear anything we like, there is no law against it. However, unlike women, we haven't yet earned the right to wear whatever we want....not if you want to be socially accepted. In the past women were "not allowed" to wear all sorts of masculine clothes. I'm talking 100 years ago here. They were expected (because of men) to wear certain clothes, corsets, dresses, skirts etc etc....pants and trousers were frowned upon, they were "unaccepted in mainstream society". It wasn't until the women's movement fought for their rights by getting out there and fighting for equality, which included being seen in these different clothes....in other words, they made it happen.
IMHO it's going to be the same for us. We (me included) have to get out there in our feminine clothes and be seen for what we are....transgendered. It's not going to be an easy ride, and we are going to have to take some risks, but if ultimately, if we are going to get accepted more in society then people have to know about us. It's up to us to educate them that we are non threatening, harmless individuals and we are not to be feared...despite what they may perceive. In my opinion people often fear, or dislike, what they don't understand.
I'll get off my soapbox now
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I get what your all saying and its all true. As for them looking down on us i don't think so they just don't know anything about crossdressing. Most ppl i have talked to had no idea, b/c no one every has the guts to say anything on that subject. YOu hide in fear of what ppl think and then no one will ever understand what a crossdresser is. I for one don't hide. I have told many ppl and i have had really no bad reactions all they did was laugh at me. I told some girls i met today i like wearing panties they said thats hott.
So what i can wear what i want anytime and no one say anything about it, but same old ladies. Ok at work we have a dress code so i have to wear a unform but other then that. If you show no fear people will say nothing bad to you about what you wear. It's simple.
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Call me stupid but I think it is simple.
Society say its ok for a woman to wear men's clothes.
Society says it is wrong for men to wear woman's clothes.
And we all know Society is always right don't we.........
But until we stick our two fingers up to society and say this is me then it will stay that way.
Exactly my friend Exactly!
Suzy!
getting used to the 'norm'
i can relate it to my job, there were no traffic enforcement officers in the town i work at and suddenly there were 16 of us and in the first year we had so much verbal abuse but now after over 2 years 95% of people just accept us as part of everyday life so i suppose what i am saying is the only way we are not to be joked about would be for us all to go out dressed everyday and in a few years you will be accepted, society naturally is aggressive towards things they don't understand so they need time to realise we are not a threat to them and in fact are more of the nicer people in this world x
OFF TO GET MY NIGHTDRESS ON
In addition to what has been said:
Feminity is still a second class characteristic.
Women usually don't try to mimic or transform into men. CDs usually try to mimic women, that might strain the acceptance too much.
Feminity on men is usually equaled to gay. Neither the majority of men nor the majority of women want a gay. The gays themselves are usually not very interested in fem dressed men.
OK not to start an argument but here goes. Actually it is not any easier for a Female to Male to dress as it is for us. Yes women have BOY cut shorts and boxers and jeans and well flannel shirts and can get away with wearing their SO clothes but when they try and emulate a man they get the same or worse treatment then us. If a genetic man see them well all gloves Are off and the FTM has to prove he is a MAN. They get called names and also are looked down on by other women and to tell the truth I would rather take a punch on the chin then deal with a woman who does not like the way another woman is dressed. Yes we are seen as freaks or worse but I would rather deal with this then what a FTM has to deal with because as the saying goes “ THIS IS A MANS WORLD” and for a woman to want to become a man it is seen as worse then if a man wants to become a woman , and it is our fault it so hard for us to buy women’s clothing because SHOPPING has always been a woman place in society and women can be buying mens clothes or women and other women have no problem, but we as men look out of place or nervous buying women’s clothes, Like I said we made the rules, Second it is not the women who own the fashion world it is men and point of fact most clothing designers are men very few women, my
I asked this very thing of my wife (who dresses like a F2M) and her answer was simple..."We are not trying to pass ourselves off as men."
WHATEVER.
Emily Ann
That is very true Jane.
They are also very narrow-minded.
I have never seen a problem with men wearing women's clothes myself.
Everyone in the world is equal.
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